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      desperex last edited by

      Hi there, I'm interested in SC130 and SC132 mono cameras, going to use them on Rock Pi 4B+ now and probably later on Orange Pi 5.

      Concerning Rock Pi 4B+ (RK3399): I see there were some issues with similar board (http://wiki.veye.cc/index.php/VEYE_MIPI_327_for_Nano_Pi_4_ubuntu#Exsiting_bugs) and different camera, but I guess the tests were not done on mainline 5.10+ kernels (which has rkisp1 official support). Anyway I'll probably need an adapter.
      Concerning Orange Pi 5: I see you support t-firefly ROC-RK3588S-PC, but Pi 5 uses different type of camera connector, so the adapter is definitely required.

      So the question is are those two sensors compatible with two stated boards?

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        veye_xumm @desperex last edited by

        @desperex said in Please advise compatible mono camera:

        About two or three years ago, we tried to connect VEYE series products to rk3399, but at that time there were some problems with its BSP.
        Recently we restarted the development plan for rockchip chips.
        The first thing we are doing is to connect VEYE series to firefly's RK3566 board. Now the development has been completed and we have made http://wiki.veye.cc/index.php/ADP-Tfirefly. This board is already online for sale.
        Next, we have to create the adapter board for MV series to ROC-RK3566/8-PC and develop it.
        As for the two boards you mentioned, the rk3399 chip is too old and we have no plans for now.
        Orange Pi 5, we have not studied it before. I will submit it to our R&D department.

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          desperex @veye_xumm last edited by

          @veye_xumm thanks for the input, will give it a try with SC132 on rock pi 4b+, sure there will be lot to do with dts.
          Yes it's old, but still good in terms of cores/RAM/M.2 support, it only lacks extra CSI and 4 lanes/MIPI CSI-2 support.
          It'd be really cool to see your roadmap with all stuff planned and I hope there will be Orange Pi 5 with SC130 adapter for my next project.

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            veye_xumm @desperex last edited by

            @desperex OK

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              desperex @veye_xumm last edited by desperex

              @veye_xumm
              Just finished setting up RAW-MIPI-SC132M camera on rock pi 4b using rpi mvcam ported driver.
              Now I'm trying to create a working rkisp1 pipeline, which is not straightforward for me, so I've got some questions:

              1. The sensor supports only Y8 and Y10 formats so how do I map it to ISP which supports only YUV/RGB/bayer formats? At the moment I'm getting 'Broken pipe' error. In topology (below) I need to map formats of rkisp1_isp:pad0 and 'mvcam 4-003b:pad0
              2. How to upgrade camera's firmware? Didn't find any sources on your github, only binaries (incompatible).

              EDIT: So this setup is to use the sensor in OpenMV, if rkisp1 just can't work with mono cams, is there any other way to use this cam in my configuration?

              Below is media topology for reference:

              media-ctl -p -d "platform:rkisp1"
              Media controller API version 5.15.90
              
              Media device information
              ------------------------
              driver          rkisp1
              model           rkisp1
              serial          
              bus info        platform:rkisp1
              hw revision     0xa
              driver version  5.15.90
              
              Device topology
              - entity 1: rkisp1_isp (4 pads, 5 links)
                          type V4L2 subdev subtype Unknown flags 0
                          device node name /dev/v4l-subdev0
              	pad0: Sink
              		[fmt:SRGGB10_1X10/1080x1280 field:none
              		 crop.bounds:(0,0)/1080x1280
              		 crop:(0,0)/1024x768]
              		<- "mvcam 4-003b":0 [ENABLED]
              	pad1: Sink
              		[fmt:unknown/0x0 field:none]
              		<- "rkisp1_params":0 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              	pad2: Source
              		[fmt:YUYV8_2X8/1024x768 field:none
              		 crop.bounds:(0,0)/1024x768
              		 crop:(0,0)/1024x768]
              		-> "rkisp1_resizer_mainpath":0 [ENABLED]
              		-> "rkisp1_resizer_selfpath":0 []
              	pad3: Source
              		[fmt:unknown/0x0 field:none]
              		-> "rkisp1_stats":0 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 6: rkisp1_resizer_mainpath (2 pads, 2 links)
                          type V4L2 subdev subtype Unknown flags 0
                          device node name /dev/v4l-subdev1
              	pad0: Sink
              		[fmt:YUYV8_2X8/1024x768 field:none colorspace:srgb xfer:srgb ycbcr:601 quantization:lim-range
              		 crop.bounds:(0,0)/1024x768
              		 crop:(0,0)/800x600]
              		<- "rkisp1_isp":2 [ENABLED]
              	pad1: Source
              		[fmt:YUYV8_2X8/1024x768 field:none colorspace:srgb xfer:srgb ycbcr:601 quantization:lim-range]
              		-> "rkisp1_mainpath":0 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 9: rkisp1_resizer_selfpath (2 pads, 2 links)
                          type V4L2 subdev subtype Unknown flags 0
                          device node name /dev/v4l-subdev2
              	pad0: Sink
              		[fmt:YUYV8_2X8/800x600 field:none colorspace:srgb xfer:srgb ycbcr:601 quantization:lim-range
              		 crop.bounds:(0,0)/800x600
              		 crop:(0,0)/800x600]
              		<- "rkisp1_isp":2 []
              	pad1: Source
              		[fmt:YUYV8_2X8/800x600 field:none colorspace:srgb xfer:srgb ycbcr:601 quantization:lim-range]
              		-> "rkisp1_selfpath":0 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 12: rkisp1_mainpath (1 pad, 1 link)
                           type Node subtype V4L flags 0
                           device node name /dev/video5
              	pad0: Sink
              		<- "rkisp1_resizer_mainpath":1 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 16: rkisp1_selfpath (1 pad, 1 link)
                           type Node subtype V4L flags 0
                           device node name /dev/video6
              	pad0: Sink
              		<- "rkisp1_resizer_selfpath":1 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 20: rkisp1_stats (1 pad, 1 link)
                           type Node subtype V4L flags 0
                           device node name /dev/video7
              	pad0: Sink
              		<- "rkisp1_isp":3 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 24: rkisp1_params (1 pad, 1 link)
                           type Node subtype V4L flags 0
                           device node name /dev/video8
              	pad0: Source
              		-> "rkisp1_isp":1 [ENABLED,IMMUTABLE]
              
              - entity 28: mvcam 4-003b (1 pad, 1 link)
                           type V4L2 subdev subtype Sensor flags 0
                           device node name /dev/v4l-subdev3
              	pad0: Source
              		[fmt:Y8_1X8/1080x1280 field:none colorspace:srgb
              		 crop.bounds:(0,0)/1080x1280
              		 crop:(0,0)/1080x1280]
              		-> "rkisp1_isp":0 [ENABLED]
              
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                veye_xumm @desperex last edited by

                @desperex

                @desperex said in Please advise compatible mono camera:

                The sensor supports only Y8 and Y10 formats so how do I map it to ISP which supports only YUV/RGB/bayer formats? At the moment I'm getting 'Broken pipe' error. In topology (below) I need to map formats of rkisp1_isp:pad0 and 'mvcam 4-003b:pad0

                Can't do that, after all, this is a mono sensor.
                mv seriescamera access to rockchip platform is what we are promoting. It is estimated that it will be completed within a month.
                As for the upgrade tool, we will also provide the corresponding binary file.

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                  desperex @veye_xumm last edited by desperex

                  @veye_xumm After deep analysis of rkisp driver I see two completely different implementations:

                  1. from vendor: https://github.com/JeffyCN/mirrors/commit/72e4ba0ccf477a6d90f40a2fb5e3bc9e5025093b. That one explicitly supports MEDIA_BUS_FMT_Y8_1X8 and MEDIA_BUS_FMT_Y10_1X10 as input for ISP. I tried to bring all the changes to mainline (5.15.90) but it still fails somewhere when setting pipeline
                  2. from collabora, mainline kernel, it seems to also have some mono camera support https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/9a0e3cd50d3967b669f0f0ea79a7054c7877d95b. But they require the camera to be set to YUV422 which can't be done with RAW-MIPI-SC132M

                  @veye_xumm said in Please advise compatible mono camera:

                  mv seriescamera access to rockchip platform is what we are promoting. It is estimated that it will be completed within a month.

                  EDIT: There's also a warning "mvcam 4-003b: Consider updating driver mvcam to match on endpoints", not sure if it's harmful or not
                  https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v6.1/drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-async.c#L142

                  Ok will work on no.1 while waiting for any updates from you
                  Thanks!

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                    veye_xumm @desperex last edited by

                    @desperex

                    @desperex said in Please advise compatible mono camera:

                    EDIT: There's also a warning "mvcam 4-003b: Consider updating driver mvcam to match on endpoints", not sure if it's harmful or not

                    This will not cause problems.

                    For machine vision type cameras, many times the isp function is not needed. Many steps in isp are dealing with color, and this is certainly not necessary to do. There are also valid operations such as AE, gamma, etc. But there are many customer application scenarios that do not need these functions.
                    Which functions of isp do you need, please?

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                      desperex @veye_xumm last edited by desperex

                      @veye_xumm said in Please advise compatible mono camera:

                      Which functions of isp do you need, please?

                      Just AE,IS and crop, if there was a way to skip ISP, I'd do.
                      Other reqs would come up later, now I just can't start developing CV part.

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